Talk:List of administrative divisions of Taiwan

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On 1 May 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of Republic of China administrative divisions to List of Taiwanese administrative divisions. The result of the discussion was page moved to List of administrative divisions of Taiwan.

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved to List of administrative divisions of Taiwan, per WP:LISTNAME. Miniapolis 19:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of Republic of China administrative divisions → List of Taiwanese administrative divisions – Over the past year or so, this article has moved back and forth between these two names several times, with one user in particular aggressively acting to move it to the current title multiple times. Despite all of these moves, the issue has never been discussed (as far as I can tell). I think it's time we had that conversation. No vote. Eureka Lott 04:56, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Administrative divisions of the Republic of China. There is absolutely nothing here that cannot be on that page, and there are few enough de facto first-order divisions (counties/provincial cities/special municipalities) to warrant complete inclusion on that page. GotR ^Talk 05:26, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And I flat out oppose any move of either this page or Administrative divisions of the Republic of China to contain the word "Taiwan". This pair of articles is similar to (Government of/President/Premier/Executive Yuan, etc.) of the Republic of China, and is solely about the ROC government. In that light, "match with the parent article" is a total non-argument. In any case, here is not the place to discuss a move of Administrative divisions of the Republic of China. GotR ^Talk 17:09, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Administrative divisions of the Republic of China and then rename that article to Subdivisions of Taiwan as the simplest title possible, in line with the general form of "Subdivisions of Foo" in Category:Country subdivisions by country and with the main article (Taiwan). Green Giant (talk) 06:10, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you on the merge part, but this is a RM on this title alone. In this case, we had best move one step at a time. GotR ^Talk 06:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC);[reply]

There are no restrictions on what can be counter-proposed even if the original proposal is limited in scope. In this case I think we can "kill two birds with one stone". Green Giant (talk) 08:02, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment unlike this article, the proposed merge target is a top-importance article, so any move concerning that article should be discussed there, not here. And instead of killing two birds, you'll surely instigate a move and edit war, as has happened in the past. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 10:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Per 94.197.127.120 and Green Giant's recommendation. The article of the Republic of China on Wikipedia is named "Taiwan", so this article, and others like it, should reflect that. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 07:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Per Green Giant and Guerrilla of the Renmin. Cavann (talk) 07:53, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alternate per GotR, Oppose Green Giant's suggestion. If you read that article you'd see it covers territorial disputes with Russia, Mongolia, India, which has nothing to do with the currently controlled area of the Taiwan Area, so that article is about the Republic of China, and claims the entirety of the mainland as well. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 10:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Two history subsections, more than adequately covered elsewhere, should not solely define the scope of the article, considering there is also a lead and about a dozen subsections dealing almost exclusively with the current Free Area. That was the basis of my suggestion of renaming that article. Please don't assume people I haven't read articles unless you have first hand evidence :P Green Giant (talk) 11:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support rename, in line with parent article Taiwan, neutral on the merge. --BDD (talk) 16:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I was ambivalent towards the renaming of Republic of China to Taiwan but that's happened so rename this article for the sake of consistency. Zarcadia (talk) 17:09, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Taiwan. Timrollpickering (talk) 02:16, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support the move per Taiwan, and Green Giant's proposal to move the main administrative division article.Fizikanauk (talk) 22:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move to List of administrative divisions of Taiwan, not List of Taiwanese administrative divisions. For examples, List of administrative divisions of Morocco by population, List of administrative divisions of Beijing, and so on. Sawol (talk) 14:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.